Mozilla Europe website launched

In: Mozilla

17 Feb 2004

Mozilla Europe, a non-profit organization that was recently founded by several European Netscapees and Mozilla contributors, has just launched its website. Read the press release.

Some would say the website design has a certain Communist theme to it – I wonder if it’s not because of the judicious use of red and stars. Very nice, nonetheless. My only complaint would be the accessibility links which appear when you roll over them. Somewhere below the navigation bar, there are 3 links: “skip to Navigation”, “skip to Search” and “switch language”, which are hidden by applying a white color to the text, but become black when hovered. Confusing to a normal user to say the least. At least it confused me a bit when for a moment I thought the site just managed to produce a Peek-a-boo IE6 bug. But of course not, this is Gecko we’re talking about ;). Back on topic, I don’t see the point of providing accessibility links in this manner since it appears for users who don’t need them when they least expect it. Try Mark Pilgrim’s advice. Not to take anything away from the designer(s) though – they have done an excellent job.

Update: The designer of the Mozilla Europe website, Sam Latchman, has made clear several things in his comment. Most importantly, “display:none” does not pass muster on many screen readers as proven on css-discuss.

4 Responses to Mozilla Europe website launched



February 18th, 2004 at 10am

Ha ha–good call on the communist aspect of the site. The site is relatively well done, but the designer is certainly no Dave Shea.

As far as the accessibility links, they really should’ve thrown a “display: none” on them. That said, I must admit, the site is the best I’ve ever seen in Lynx and the accessibility links do help. Of course, if you’re using Lynx what would you be doing on the Mozilla website, let alone the Mozilla Europe website?


Sam Latchman

February 20th, 2004 at 7am

The designer is definitely no Dave Shea, and will be so moved by the compliment. Oh wait, that’s me!

The site’s design obviously has that communist vibe, and that’s on purpose. Not mine though. I’m not at liberty to explain why, but it had to be that way.

As for the accessibility links, well, did I get a lot of flak about those! First of all, I’m sorry to say that Mark Pilgrim was wrong about “display:none”, as later tests revealed. So you musn’t hide those links too much, there are people who see fine and still need them. Then you have clients, who don’t want their brand ruined by a weird navigation bar. Then the site goes live, and people who won’t use it complain it’s a bug, while “average” users just use it and never complain. My solution is far from perfect and will be refined, but then web design is only about trade-offs. Oh wait, didn’t Dave Shea said that?


Cheah Chu Yeow

February 20th, 2004 at 11am

Obviously I don’t agree with comparing designers. But I think Matthew on my blog entry wasn’t trying to be sarcastic or hurt anyone’s feelings – I mean, I myself have been guilty of shooting my mouth off at times.

Anyway, I think you’ve done a great job with the site – I’m sure you already know my opinion on that. I have to apologize about the accessibility links – I’m the one who’s out of touch and I now see the reason for not using display:none;.


TeRanEX WebLog

February 17th, 2004 at 11pm

Mozilla Europe website launched
Vanaf nu is er ook een Europese Mozilla website :-)