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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t trust web apps (or how Google Reader and my ISP conspired to lose all my feeds)</title>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/17/dont-trust-web-apps-or-how-google-reader-and-my-isp-conspired-to-lose-all-my-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-258125</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah... cache crap. I noticed that too when I shifted urls for one of the servers that I manage, and still discovered users trying to access the old url even though it had been a week already since the shift... It&#039;s ridiculous, I tell you. There&#039;s more insanity yet in the ISPs, but I shan&#039;t rant here ;)

On the subject of feed readers, I&#039;ve never really found anything that had what I wanted. There were some interesting ones that I stumbled upon (including one that had a for-pay model!), but suffice to say that I am not using a feed reader just yet... Perhaps I am crazy. Yeah, that must be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&#8230; cache crap. I noticed that too when I shifted urls for one of the servers that I manage, and still discovered users trying to access the old url even though it had been a week already since the shift&#8230; It&#8217;s ridiculous, I tell you. There&#8217;s more insanity yet in the ISPs, but I shan&#8217;t rant here ;)</p>
<p>On the subject of feed readers, I&#8217;ve never really found anything that had what I wanted. There were some interesting ones that I stumbled upon (including one that had a for-pay model!), but suffice to say that I am not using a feed reader just yet&#8230; Perhaps I am crazy. Yeah, that must be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roys</title>
		<link>http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/17/dont-trust-web-apps-or-how-google-reader-and-my-isp-conspired-to-lose-all-my-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-257307</link>
		<dc:creator>Roys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/News-Newsgroups-Blog-Tools/Abilon.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Abilon&lt;/a&gt; to read feeds. It&#039;s a freeware Windows app so I don&#039;t have to worry about logging in, privacy and stuff.

But then again, it&#039;s not perfect and the developers SisyphSoft no longer exist so there&#039;s no chance of patches and upgrades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use <a href="http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/News-Newsgroups-Blog-Tools/Abilon.shtml" rel="nofollow">Abilon</a> to read feeds. It&#8217;s a freeware Windows app so I don&#8217;t have to worry about logging in, privacy and stuff.</p>
<p>But then again, it&#8217;s not perfect and the developers SisyphSoft no longer exist so there&#8217;s no chance of patches and upgrades.</p>
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		<title>By: Chu Yeow</title>
		<link>http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/17/dont-trust-web-apps-or-how-google-reader-and-my-isp-conspired-to-lose-all-my-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-257270</link>
		<dc:creator>Chu Yeow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup I agree with you, Google Reader was my perfect feed reader too. I think I&#039;ll work out a plan to go back to using that and exporting and backing up my OPML regularly. Just can&#039;t see myself forking out for NetNewsWire yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup I agree with you, Google Reader was my perfect feed reader too. I think I&#8217;ll work out a plan to go back to using that and exporting and backing up my OPML regularly. Just can&#8217;t see myself forking out for NetNewsWire yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/17/dont-trust-web-apps-or-how-google-reader-and-my-isp-conspired-to-lose-all-my-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-257259</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used NetNewsWire and FeedDemon. It&#039;s not horrible, but I found it had problems syncing with NewsGator.

Now if either sync&#039;ed with .Mac or Google Reader&#039;s data, I would be soo there.

Right now, Google&#039;s interface is perfect. It&#039;s quick, does what I want it to, and best of all, it&#039;s free. Sure, Google knows more about me than I do, but so does the government, so who am I really hiding from anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used NetNewsWire and FeedDemon. It&#8217;s not horrible, but I found it had problems syncing with NewsGator.</p>
<p>Now if either sync&#8217;ed with .Mac or Google Reader&#8217;s data, I would be soo there.</p>
<p>Right now, Google&#8217;s interface is perfect. It&#8217;s quick, does what I want it to, and best of all, it&#8217;s free. Sure, Google knows more about me than I do, but so does the government, so who am I really hiding from anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Chu Yeow</title>
		<link>http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/17/dont-trust-web-apps-or-how-google-reader-and-my-isp-conspired-to-lose-all-my-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-257258</link>
		<dc:creator>Chu Yeow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you find something like that, where the reader syncs well from multiple locations and (unfortunately) is multi-platform (I’m forced to use a Windows system at work), please post the info here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s actually a good candidate that satisfies most of our requirements: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/NetNewsWire/Default.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NetNewsWire&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;ve used the trial version and it&#039;s pretty good and the web version works OK. It&#039;s for pay though and I&#039;m holding back a bit to see whether I can work something out between what I&#039;ve paid for (NewsFire) or using something free and backing up my OPML file regularly.

Thanks for the sympathy! I think I&#039;m OK now after recalling what most of my subscribed feeds were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you find something like that, where the reader syncs well from multiple locations and (unfortunately) is multi-platform (I’m forced to use a Windows system at work), please post the info here.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s actually a good candidate that satisfies most of our requirements: <a href="http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/NetNewsWire/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">NetNewsWire</a>. I&#8217;ve used the trial version and it&#8217;s pretty good and the web version works OK. It&#8217;s for pay though and I&#8217;m holding back a bit to see whether I can work something out between what I&#8217;ve paid for (NewsFire) or using something free and backing up my OPML file regularly.</p>
<p>Thanks for the sympathy! I think I&#8217;m OK now after recalling what most of my subscribed feeds were.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/17/dont-trust-web-apps-or-how-google-reader-and-my-isp-conspired-to-lose-all-my-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-255453</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen that before. I was terrified that I had lost my OPML of RSS feeds. But I cleared my cache and restarted my browser and got them all back.

After that, I started backing up my OPML file, just in case...

It&#039;s only happened that once, but it does make me worry some. Mostly for the stuff where money is involved. I&#039;m not so worried if someone sees what I like to read.

Unfortunately, I have yet to find any other RSS reader (web based or desktop based) that works as well as Google Reader. At least for the way I like to read RSS feeds. I read from work and home, and I don&#039;t like having to figure out what I have read at one place to get to the new posts.

Bloglines has a bug that causes all kinds of problems if you use some of their features and they have yet to fix them. Even though they have been in there for over 2 years and have been reported at least 3 times by myself.

There are a couple of desktop readers that sync with Bloglines (not very helpful) or by other means to keep what has been read up-to-date, but I haven&#039;t found one that works for me well.

If you find something like that, where the reader syncs well from multiple locations and (unfortunately) is multi-platform (I&#039;m forced to use a Windows system at work), please post the info here. I&#039;m always on the lookout for a desktop reader that will work as well as a web based reader.

Thanks, and sorry to hear about the loss of your OPML list of feeds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen that before. I was terrified that I had lost my OPML of RSS feeds. But I cleared my cache and restarted my browser and got them all back.</p>
<p>After that, I started backing up my OPML file, just in case&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only happened that once, but it does make me worry some. Mostly for the stuff where money is involved. I&#8217;m not so worried if someone sees what I like to read.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have yet to find any other RSS reader (web based or desktop based) that works as well as Google Reader. At least for the way I like to read RSS feeds. I read from work and home, and I don&#8217;t like having to figure out what I have read at one place to get to the new posts.</p>
<p>Bloglines has a bug that causes all kinds of problems if you use some of their features and they have yet to fix them. Even though they have been in there for over 2 years and have been reported at least 3 times by myself.</p>
<p>There are a couple of desktop readers that sync with Bloglines (not very helpful) or by other means to keep what has been read up-to-date, but I haven&#8217;t found one that works for me well.</p>
<p>If you find something like that, where the reader syncs well from multiple locations and (unfortunately) is multi-platform (I&#8217;m forced to use a Windows system at work), please post the info here. I&#8217;m always on the lookout for a desktop reader that will work as well as a web based reader.</p>
<p>Thanks, and sorry to hear about the loss of your OPML list of feeds!</p>
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