Comments on: The “other” switch: From MovableType to WordPress http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/ Rails, Firefox, Anime, Mac Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:55:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: CaptSolo http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-3032 CaptSolo Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:50:33 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-3032 <b><a href="http://b2evolution.net/" title="b2evolution - advanced blog engine">b2evolution</a></b> could also have been a good choice. <blockquote>You have already migrated the blog, but this information may be useful to others considering their options. For current MT users b2evolution <a href="http://b2evolution.net/news/2004/07/03/b2evo_0_9_0_9_madrid_released" title="b2evolution - improved MT import">supports migration from MovableType</a></blockquote> If we look at your "In short, I’m happier because:" list, all the same applies to <abbr title="b2evoulution">b2evo</abbr>. Most probably because it is also an evolution of b2/cafelog and these two (together with WP) are the most active offsprings of b2. Both have their own advantages. <abbr title="b2evoulution">b2evo</abbr> supports multiple blogs & users, with fine permission control, has UTF-8 support, i18n (has been localized to many languages) and efficient AntiSpam control. Has <a href="http://doc.b2evolution.net/0.9.0/classtrees_evocore.html" title="b2evolution - technical documentation">clear technical documentation</a>. One difference that it is not a single index.php file. There are stub files for each blog which you may configure as you wish. Further - nifty appearance modifications can be made inside skin files - so you can separate - configuration params, functionality and look (CSS). <a href="http://b2evolution.net/demo/index.html" title="On-line demo">Try the on-line demo</a> (backoffice is most interesting to see, i think). b2evolution could also have been a good choice.

You have already migrated the blog, but this information may be useful to others considering their options.

For current MT users b2evolution supports migration from MovableType

If we look at your “In short, I’m happier because:” list, all the same applies to b2evo. Most probably because it is also an evolution of b2/cafelog and these two (together with WP) are the most active offsprings of b2.

Both have their own advantages.

b2evo supports multiple blogs & users, with fine permission control, has UTF-8 support, i18n (has been localized to many languages) and efficient AntiSpam control. Has clear technical documentation.

One difference that it is not a single index.php file. There are stub files for each blog which you may configure as you wish. Further – nifty appearance modifications can be made inside skin files – so you can separate – configuration params, functionality and look (CSS). Try the on-line demo (backoffice is most interesting to see, i think).

]]> By: Ben's Thought Crimes http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-3001 Ben's Thought Crimes Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:56:58 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-3001 <strong>Back to rainy England</strong> After just over a week of 100°F+ temps I landed at London Stansted yesterday afternoon to the joyful sight of greyness and water streaming across my cabin window, to say i'm glad to be back would be a gross mis-judgment... Back to rainy England
After just over a week of 100°F+ temps I landed at London Stansted yesterday afternoon to the joyful sight of greyness and water streaming across my cabin window, to say i’m glad to be back would be a gross mis-judgment…

]]> By: Ilija Studen http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2989 Ilija Studen Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:04:44 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2989 I tried more that one blog script few months ago. After few days I found out that they just don’t fit my needs. "Front side" was always OK, but scripts are almost always in mess. When I tried WP I instantly deleted it... Template engine? Have WP development team ever heard of something like that??? Tip: Smarty is OK one. So I wrote my own script. What you see on area51 is a51v1. a51v2 is almost finished and has everything that I need (TB, comment moderation and blacklisting, labels, good externals script, pretty good feed generator, mod_rewrite…) And there is template engine. Don’t mix PHP and HTML! Reason I did all that (almost two months of work when you put it all together) is that I don’t like to be controlled by a script. Also, when I’m forced to you use somebody else’s code that don’t match my coding patterns its far easier to me to rewrite it that to hack it. I just wanted to say that when tool doesn’t fit your need create one that does. PHP is not that hard to learn… Sorry for poor English :( I tried more that one blog script few months ago. After few days I found out that they just don’t fit my needs. “Front side” was always OK, but scripts are almost always in mess. When I tried WP I instantly deleted it… Template engine? Have WP development team ever heard of something like that??? Tip: Smarty is OK one.

So I wrote my own script. What you see on area51 is a51v1. a51v2 is almost finished and has everything that I need (TB, comment moderation and blacklisting, labels, good externals script, pretty good feed generator, mod_rewrite…) And there is template engine. Don’t mix PHP and HTML!

Reason I did all that (almost two months of work when you put it all together) is that I don’t like to be controlled by a script. Also, when I’m forced to you use somebody else’s code that don’t match my coding patterns its far easier to me to rewrite it that to hack it.

I just wanted to say that when tool doesn’t fit your need create one that does. PHP is not that hard to learn…

Sorry for poor English :(

]]> By: Doug http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2986 Doug Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:30:23 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2986 Did you happen to consider <a href="http://b2evolution.net/">b2evolution</a>? It's also based off of the old b2/cafelog, with an emphasis on lots of features rather than simplicity. Did you happen to consider b2evolution? It’s also based off of the old b2/cafelog, with an emphasis on lots of features rather than simplicity.

]]> By: John http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2985 John Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:01:23 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2985 Congrats on the switch :D! I've had MT and wordpress and I have to say wordpress is so much easier to customize... MT is good for people who are new to blogging and just need a publishing bit... But wordpress can be completely broken down and rebuilt by anyone with a fair understanding of php. I really look forward to seeing what you can do with it :D. Congrats on the switch :D! I’ve had MT and wordpress and I have to say wordpress is so much easier to customize… MT is good for people who are new to blogging and just need a publishing bit… But wordpress can be completely broken down and rebuilt by anyone with a fair understanding of php. I really look forward to seeing what you can do with it :D.

]]> By: Nilesh http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2984 Nilesh Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:27:19 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2984 <blockquote><i>I can do Perl string manipulation pretty well, just not CGI</i></blockquote> Umm, you don't need to worry about CGI when writing non-complex MT Plugins. That's what the whole MT API thing is about.

I can do Perl string manipulation pretty well, just not CGI

Umm, you don’t need to worry about CGI when writing non-complex MT Plugins. That’s what the whole MT API thing is about.

]]> By: Cheah Chu Yeow http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2983 Cheah Chu Yeow Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:34:16 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2983 minghong: You're right I didn't think of that! No more double TrackBacks too. Ed: I'm not saying that comment spam will be reduced. I'm saying that there won't be any nasty rebuilds when I get comment spammed on WP. TedFox pretty much explained what I meant. :) TedFox: Well, the switch was for the better, but I had a hard time getting it much like how it was for my old MT setup. Mostly the commenting system, and the content/links that appear in either in the single post or index page contexts. minghong: You’re right I didn’t think of that! No more double TrackBacks too.

Ed: I’m not saying that comment spam will be reduced. I’m saying that there won’t be any nasty rebuilds when I get comment spammed on WP. TedFox pretty much explained what I meant. :)

TedFox: Well, the switch was for the better, but I had a hard time getting it much like how it was for my old MT setup. Mostly the commenting system, and the content/links that appear in either in the single post or index page contexts.

]]> By: TedFox http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2982 TedFox Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:33:39 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2982 I think Ed will find that wordpress will filter out comment spam alot more effectively... In addition to that, being non-static, it doesn't have to rebuild everytime a new comment come in, bringing the server down, if a wave of spam comes in. Of course with MT 3.1, you could put every single page on PHP I guess.... I've been waiting to see whether you'll ever make the switch over to WP. Nice to know you did. haha. Seems like the switch went well? I think Ed will find that wordpress will filter out comment spam alot more effectively…

In addition to that, being non-static, it doesn’t have to rebuild everytime a new comment come in, bringing the server down, if a wave of spam comes in. Of course with MT 3.1, you could put every single page on PHP I guess….

I’ve been waiting to see whether you’ll ever make the switch over to WP. Nice to know you did. haha. Seems like the switch went well?

]]> By: girlwonder http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2981 girlwonder Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:29:05 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2981 i'm not that deep into code or perl strings or php-backend or what have you, but based simply on the rebuilds alone, i think it was worth the switch. and my blog probably doesn't see the amount of traffic yours does, but since i've been using wp (2 or 3 months) i've had ONE spam comment, and it was held for moderation - i <3 wordpress. i’m not that deep into code or perl strings or php-backend or what have you, but based simply on the rebuilds alone, i think it was worth the switch. and my blog probably doesn’t see the amount of traffic yours does, but since i’ve been using wp (2 or 3 months) i’ve had ONE spam comment, and it was held for moderation – i <3 wordpress.

]]> By: Photo Matt http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2980 Photo Matt Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:33:23 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2980 <strong>Redemption in a Switch</strong> Chu Yeow switches to WordPress and has an interesting story. Welcome to the family. :) "I can imagine how the rebuilding frenzy brought the server to its metaphorical knees. [...] being able to read and understand the source code of WordPress is a ver... Redemption in a Switch
Chu Yeow switches to WordPress and has an interesting story. Welcome to the family. :) “I can imagine how the rebuilding frenzy brought the server to its metaphorical knees. [...] being able to read and understand the source code of WordPress is a ver…

]]> By: Ed http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2977 Ed Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:29:58 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2977 Are you sure that the comment spam will be reduced by switching to wordpress? I wonder whether a move to the newer version of mt 3.1 (I think) which will come out at the end of the month may have helped you out, and not forced you to move just yet. I have to admit to looking at wordpress, but decided against it, because it involved too much work with redesigns. Are you sure that the comment spam will be reduced by switching to wordpress? I wonder whether a move to the newer version of mt 3.1 (I think) which will come out at the end of the month may have helped you out, and not forced you to move just yet. I have to admit to looking at wordpress, but decided against it, because it involved too much work with redesigns.

]]> By: Neil's World http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2976 Neil's World Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:26:48 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2976 <strong>Why I'm not switching to Wordpress</strong> Now that I've announced the book, I've had a couple of emails on the lines of "So I'm guessing you're not switching to Wordpress now, huh?", and indeed I'm not. The book, however, is not the only thing that's keeping me with MT and I'd like to... Why I’m not switching to Wordpress
Now that I’ve announced the book, I’ve had a couple of emails on the lines of “So I’m guessing you’re not switching to Wordpress now, huh?”, and indeed I’m not. The book, however, is not the only thing that’s keeping me with MT and I’d like to…

]]> By: Steve http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2975 Steve Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:20:19 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2975 Welcome to the world of WordPress :D You might read <a href="http://weblog.burningbird.net/archives/2004/07/07/wordpress-modifications/">this</a>. It's pretty useful and rather thorough when it comes to hacking away at WordPress. Welcome to the world of WordPress :D
You might read this.
It’s pretty useful and rather thorough when it comes to hacking away at WordPress.

]]> By: Richard Evans Lee http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2972 Richard Evans Lee Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:05:25 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2972 Aside from my, uh, six, I think, MT weblogs I have one each of WordPress and TextPattern. Haven't worked much to customize the latter two yet but will be looking for what nifty things you do for WP. Aside from my, uh, six, I think, MT weblogs I have one each of WordPress and TextPattern. Haven’t worked much to customize the latter two yet but will be looking for what nifty things you do for WP.

]]> By: minghong http://blog.codefront.net/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2970 minghong Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:41:13 +0000 http://blog.codefront.net/archives/2004/08/23/movabletype-to-wordpress/#comment-2970 What about <em>double trackbacking</em>? ;-) What about double trackbacking? ;-)

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